A U.S. appeals court upheld the verdict in the E. Jean Carroll defamation case, rejecting President-elect Donald Trump’s appeal. NTD’s Iris Tao speaks with John Pence—an attorney, businessman, and former senior political adviser to Trump—about the verdict’s implications for Trump’s presidency. They also discuss the H-1B visa debate, areas of bipartisan cooperation in Congress, and the legacy of former President Jimmy Carter.